Sorry I'm late. let's start by, every thing has a beginning in atheism, including energy and matter, (abbreviation noob). So my question is how did the first mass energy come from. It could not have created itself, science has proven that, and it could not have formed alone because that would violate cause ally. So where did it come from? Heck mass energy where did we come from? Even studying the human body for a short time alone proves we didn't evolve from a monkey, and we couldn't have be because there was nothing. So where did we come from? God. God alone can be eternal. God alone could have made man, beast and anything alive or not. So people say where did God come from? Actually pretty simple. God has always been. But then they say that's not possible. But if you look at it as God does not need a beginning, he does not need a creator like everything else. God did not create himself. He didn't need to. Look at it this way, a friend once said to me mass energy has a beginning and therefore requires a cause, anything living and none living (everything on earth) has a beginning and therefore requires a cause. God has no beginning and therefore requires no cause.